Comments on: Why the Flex in FlexBook, or…Why a Flash Author should care (a lot!) about Flex. http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/ simple plans for world domination Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:48:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Alex http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-56600 Alex Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:21:33 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-56600 <p>Do you think that a market will develop for Flex widgets in the way AJAX widgets have developed? For me, this is the largest anti-adoption factor - I do not want to develop widgets, just use them to solve my domain problems.</p> Do you think that a market will develop for Flex widgets in the way AJAX widgets have developed? For me, this is the largest anti-adoption factor – I do not want to develop widgets, just use them to solve my domain problems.

]]> By: Winston Bracken http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-55164 Winston Bracken Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:21:38 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-55164 <p>I really like the fish eye component but I can figure out how to get my images into it. can you help me?</p> I really like the fish eye component but I can figure out how to get my images into it. can you help me?

]]> By: steven tan http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-50894 steven tan Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:18:19 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-50894 <p>Hi, I am an as programmer and ms based programmer. Recently come across flex and I go WOW. I firmly believe the C#s, VBs, .nets are over. I will influence my clients to adopt flex. So I am very interested in your AIR/Apollo application.</p> <p>I have just downloaded the air but during installation, it said the version AIR is no longer supposrted. Can you help?</p> Hi, I am an as programmer and ms based programmer. Recently come across flex and I go WOW. I firmly believe the C#s, VBs, .nets are over. I will influence my clients to adopt flex. So I am very interested in your AIR/Apollo application.

I have just downloaded the air but during installation, it said the version AIR is no longer supposrted. Can you help?

]]> By: Tink http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-28053 Tink Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:08:31 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-28053 <p>Hey Ely, sorry I never realised this post was here.</p> <p>One thing I want to make clear is that I'm not dissing the work you did on this.</p> <p>The point I was trying to make (and it goes back to when Flex 2.0 was originally released http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=61) is that its bad practice to be using Flex where its not required and having the extra overhead of the framework. From the examples shown there was no real need for the Flex framework (except obviously thats what it was built around) and it could have been done as an AS 3.0 project, but if each page was laced with Flex components (which is how many people who come across this component may implement it) then it would make perfect sense.</p> <p>I felt that many people would come across this and think 'wow look what you can do with Flex' and therefore go down the road of using it, when it really wasn't that neccessary for the project they had in mind as Flash (AS 2.0 or 3.0) or and AS 3.0 project would have been more suitable.</p> <p>Did i just dig a deeper hole? ;)</p> Hey Ely, sorry I never realised this post was here.

One thing I want to make clear is that I’m not dissing the work you did on this.

The point I was trying to make (and it goes back to when Flex 2.0 was originally released http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=61) is that its bad practice to be using Flex where its not required and having the extra overhead of the framework. From the examples shown there was no real need for the Flex framework (except obviously thats what it was built around) and it could have been done as an AS 3.0 project, but if each page was laced with Flex components (which is how many people who come across this component may implement it) then it would make perfect sense.

I felt that many people would come across this and think ‘wow look what you can do with Flex’ and therefore go down the road of using it, when it really wasn’t that neccessary for the project they had in mind as Flash (AS 2.0 or 3.0) or and AS 3.0 project would have been more suitable.

Did i just dig a deeper hole? ;)

]]> By: nwebb http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-26364 nwebb Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:00:42 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-26364 <p>Strange that I should chance across this post today of all days. Yesterday I posted about another <a href='http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/flex-book-component-alpha/' rel="nofollow">Flex Flip Book</a> written in Flex by <a href='http://www.rubenswieringa.com/blog/' rel="nofollow">Ruben</a>.</p> <p>As Rostislav said, it looks like Perfect Fools were the first to do this in Flash, closely followed by Pixelwit in May 2002. He has a nice little summary/history <a href='http://www.pixelwit.com/blog/index.php/page-flip/' rel="nofollow">here</a></p> Strange that I should chance across this post today of all days. Yesterday I posted about another Flex Flip Book written in Flex by Ruben.

As Rostislav said, it looks like Perfect Fools were the first to do this in Flash, closely followed by Pixelwit in May 2002.
He has a nice little summary/history here

]]> By: Daniel Farrow http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-16836 Daniel Farrow Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:29:03 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-16836 <p>Thanks so much for this awesome component. I am interesting in using it for one of my projects. One issue I am running into is when I apply a background image to one of the page components. Every time I try to drag a page that has a background image, the image flickers. it is as if the pages reinitialize themselves when the mouse rolls over one of their hot spots. Do you know how I might be able to avoid this flicker effect on background images.</p> Thanks so much for this awesome component. I am interesting in using it for one of my projects. One issue I am running into is when I apply a background image to one of the page components. Every time I try to drag a page that has a background image, the image flickers. it is as if the pages reinitialize themselves when the mouse rolls over one of their hot spots. Do you know how I might be able to avoid this flicker effect on background images.

]]> By: Andreas Ahlborn http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-16429 Andreas Ahlborn Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:56:35 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-16429 <p>First i have to say...thanks a lot QS for that flexbook- component, it came like something from ...uh...heaven? But i don<code>t agree with your statement: »anything you can do in a flex application, you can do in a flash-authoring project too«...for i wonder: why have all the crafted Flash-Designers wasted most of their inspiration on nitty-witty animation popup-garbage? I</code>m really thankful that the »good core« of the multimedia-power of the flash player is now in the hand of a company (Adobe) who has some common sense. And I think (indeed) that with Flex 2 you could have the kind of killer application that gives Redmond sleepless nights...(Yeazz..i<code>m a believer;-)For example...look at the code of all the thousands games you find on the net... i have looked at it and most of the code is...uh...kinda »grindhouse«. For example...i</code>m developing a very ambitious project, that is: a website for disabled children, who can only use one switch, no mouse, no keyboard, the site shall contain:games and stuff for learning etc. so I thought: OK...Flash will do it. Flash won<code>t...Not any of the dozen or so games I explored could be made truly accessible, not even a simple puzzle in Flash was available which didn</code>t need mouse interaction...And then I was ..uh...saved by Flex. After making my first games in Flex I found your Flexbookcomponent and thought...wouldn`t it be cool to have virtual books you could navigate with a single switch...it took me a week or so to reverse-engineer your code and now I have a flaccessbook which can be easily filled by teachers or parents of disabled children with content, without even understanding some line of code, all is done by one little xml-file. So truly...i doubt if Flash 9 can keep the promise Flex 2 has made... My version of the flexbookcomponent which is completely single-switch based (use the SPACE-KEY) once your browser has setFocus (IE does it automatically via the well-known JAVA-Script workaround) can be found <a href="http://www.alpenhornblazer.de/wespulum/Shelf/Shelf.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p> <p>keep on moving! best wishes, Andreas</p> First i have to say…thanks a lot QS for that flexbook- component, it came like something from …uh…heaven? But i dont agree with your statement: »anything you can do in a flex application, you can do in a flash-authoring project too«...for i wonder: why have all the crafted Flash-Designers wasted most of their inspiration on nitty-witty animation popup-garbage? Im really thankful that the »good core« of the multimedia-power of the flash player is now in the hand of a company (Adobe) who has some common sense. And I think (indeed) that with Flex 2 you could have the kind of killer application that gives Redmond sleepless nights…(Yeazz..im a believer;-)For example...look at the code of all the thousands games you find on the net... i have looked at it and most of the code is...uh...kinda »grindhouse«. For example...im developing a very ambitious project, that is: a website for disabled children, who can only use one switch, no mouse, no keyboard, the site shall contain:games and stuff for learning etc. so I thought: OK…Flash will do it. Flash wont...Not any of the dozen or so games I explored could be made truly accessible, not even a simple puzzle in Flash was available which didnt need mouse interaction…And then I was ..uh…saved by Flex. After making my first games in Flex I found your Flexbookcomponent and thought…wouldn`t it be cool to have virtual books you could navigate with a single switch…it took me a week or so to reverse-engineer your code and now I have a flaccessbook which can be easily filled by teachers or parents of disabled children with content, without even understanding some line of code, all is done by one little xml-file.
So truly…i doubt if Flash 9 can keep the promise Flex 2 has made…
My version of the flexbookcomponent which is completely single-switch based (use the SPACE-KEY) once your browser has setFocus (IE does it automatically via the well-known JAVA-Script workaround) can be found here.

keep on moving!
best wishes,
Andreas

]]> By: Tony Högqvist http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-16242 Tony Högqvist Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:23:11 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-16242 <p>I love most of all new version of the flash book. I think this is a clear example why it good to spread open source. To let people get inspired and continuing developing a good idea. My version was not the best one, but maby the first. people have said it couple of times. I have now idea if its true. I only know that i hadn't seen it before I made my verion back in 2002. Keep up the good work!</p> <p>Best Tony Högqvist Creative Director www.perfectfools.com</p> I love most of all new version of the flash book. I think this is a clear example why it good to spread open source. To let people get inspired and continuing developing a good idea. My version was not the best one, but maby the first. people have said it couple of times. I have now idea if its true. I only know that i hadn’t seen it before I made my verion back in 2002. Keep up the good work!

Best
Tony Högqvist
Creative Director
http://www.perfectfools.com

]]> By: Rostislav Siryk http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-14215 Rostislav Siryk Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:43:08 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-14215 <p>To make the history of flash book more clear, I believe that <a href="http://www.perfectfools.com/" rel="nofollow">Perfect Fools</a> was the first ones who made the Flash Book -- they had it complete and online <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020405212317/http://www.perfectfools.com/" rel="nofollow">no later than Apr, 05 2002</a>.</p> <p>Their flash book had the fixed angle and was not so advanced, but it worked good (and had the basic transparency support) (I've been insipred by their work and even made <a href="http://rajaka.narod.ru/maya/kinbook.html" rel="nofollow">my own</a> version in 2002).</p> <p>Ely, what I especially love in your implemetation is styles applied to the book in very simple way.</p> To make the history of flash book more clear, I believe that Perfect Fools was the first ones who made the Flash Book — they had it complete and online no later than Apr, 05 2002.

Their flash book had the fixed angle and was not so advanced, but it worked good (and had the basic transparency support) (I’ve been insipred by their work and even made my own version in 2002).

Ely, what I especially love in your implemetation is styles applied to the book in very simple way.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/comment-page-1/#comment-13547 Kevin Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:08:22 +0000 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/2007/03/14/why-the-flex-in-flexbook-orwhy-a-flash-author-should-care-a-lot-about-flex/#comment-13547 <p>Every successful technology appears will trigger the renewing of products, and one of the most important reason is reduce the cost.</p> <p>Ely already made some beautiful stuff(of course including flexbook) and share them with us, it is very helpful!</p> Every successful technology appears will trigger the renewing of products, and one of the most important reason is reduce the cost.

Ely already made some beautiful stuff(of course including flexbook) and share them with us, it is very helpful!

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